External receiver, "self repeat" and UDP broadcasting

[Ben]

Hi,

Here is my configuration:
- IRServer Version 6.01.04
- IRTrans LAN:
. IR VER: E6.02.05
. ETH VER: L1.07.01
- External IR receiver (IRTrans device is inside a closet)
- External IR transmitter for TV

I think that the external receiver works well, because the IRTrans blinks.
The external transmitter works well too : my TV receives IR commands relayed by IRTrans inside the closet.

But I've got problems with the internal LEDs :
- the IRtrans do not repeat anytime IR commands coming from the external receiver.
- and the IRTrans do not send UDP commands too.

Everything is ok if IRTrans receives directly IR commands :
- IR codes are normally relayed to the external transmetter
- UDP requests are normally sent

What is exactly the difference between "self repeat" and "self repeat with internal LEDs" ?
Should I check the two options ?

How to solve my problems ?

I've already upgrade the firmware, but nothing has changed !

Thanks for you help.

Ben

[IRTrans]

Hi,
that is really strange because the external receiver works the same way as the internal one.

Did you remove the jumper when connecting the external receiver ?
Did you have a look at "Received IR Commands" with the external receiver ?
What type of external receiver do you use ?

IRTrans

[Ben]

Yes, I removed the small red jumper.

I use this one :
IRT-RCV External IR Receiver (32-48kHz)

In the "device status dialog", in the "ir receive" tab, le "rcv 2" combobox is disable.
Does it mean that the external receiver is not well recognized ?

Ben

[IRTrans]

No, that is correct.

That is what I try to explain: The IRTrans Ethernet devices only support one IR Receiver. That can be an internal OR an external one.
Therefore the 2nd receiver is not selectable. It is only active on devices with 2 IR Receivers (LAN Controller / XL, Translator).
The device has got no chance to recognize an receiver - it just processes the signal that comes from the receiver.

Is the receiver configured correctly (38kHz) in the IR Receive tab ?
Are you sure it is an 38kHz receiver ?

What does the Window "Detected IR Commands" show when an IR Code is received using the external receiver ?

IRTrans

[Ben]

Yes, "rcv 1" is configured with "38kHzh Receiver".

No, I am not sure.
How can I be sure ?
You gave me no documentation with the external receiver when I bought it.

Here are examples of IR codes received by the external receiver :
- S011000002011010000
- 402210000300002000540220000030000200054022000003000020000
- 301100000211001000530110000021100100043011000002110010000

I notice that sometimes IRDB fails, that's why I can't send command via http request. In that case :
- IRTrans repeats IR codes via internal and external LEDs
- but no UDP requests are sent

Sometimes, IRTrans send UDP requests :
- I can send command via http requests
- but no IR codes ares repeated via internal or external LEDs

Please confirm me that everything should work together.

How can I clear the IR Translation table into the IRDB ?

What's exactly the difference between "self repeating" and "self repeating via internal LEDs" ?

Ben

[IRTrans]

Hi,
the received IR codes indeed do not look complete / correct.

How do they look using the internal receiver ?

The IRDB does not fail - the problem is, that the IR Codes are not recognized properly and therefore no UDP request is sent.
There are some remote controls around that have a dozen different codes for each button. Depending on how long you press the button different IR Codes are sent. Of course it is difficult or impossible for the IRTrans to decode all that codes.

It looks like you are confusing two things here:
- Sending via http request will cause the IRTrans to send an IR Code that is stored in the IRDB.
No UDP request will be sent here - UDP request are only sent when a code is received !

- Receiving an IR Code will cause an UDP request to be sent if the code is recognized correctly AND stored in the IRDB.

Sending via http will NEVER cause an UDP request to be sent !

Furthermore, you can either have an IR Translation or an IRDB - never both at the same time !

To clear a translation table simply flash a new (e.g. empty) one or flash an IRDB.

Self Repeat will switch repeating of received IR Codes on. Self repeat via Internal LEDs will repeat them using the Internal and External LEDs. To have self repeat with the internal LEDs working, Self repeat itself has to be switched on.

IRTrans

[Ben]

I can use both IRDB and IR Transalation table ?!?!
(
That's why I thought IRDB failed !

About UDP, we agree.

About "self repeating via internal leds", you mean that "self repeat" must be checked to for working.

Other examples of IR codes received by the external receiver :

First remote, with the same key "3" :

13:28:17 : dem-fr 3
13:28:17 : dem-fr 3
13:28:17 : dem-fr 3
13:28:19 : „"
13:28:21 : dem-fr 3
13:28:21 : dem-fr 3
13:28:22 : dem-fr 3
13:28:22 : dem-fr 3
13:28:23 : 402200000322000000540220000032201000054022000003220000000
13:28:24 : 40220000032200000054022000003220100000
13:28:25 : dem-fr 3
13:28:25 : dem-fr 3

Second remote, different keys :

13:33:51 : 922HC5G16764D03A77658BEDDFD
13:33:51 : S10101232110
13:33:53 : 37GA7CC246B2E724DCAAA5A7A526B69H810FC5C7
13:33:54 : 71D95B44553902A354349CCC95C33364694080
13:34:05 : 93074513243B6C8342A0
13:34:06 : G72B295C28260328E8D188888H0FA2988492B29E828
13:34:07 : 261D9B527385837433793A37C77H0F7B7BEGC0

Thanks,
Ben

[IRTrans]

Hi,
IRDB and tranalation cannot be used at the same time, correct.

The IR Codes of the 2nd remote look like complete garbage. It would be very interesting to see how they look with the internal receiver.

How does the external receiver look ? Is there a coloured mark on the back ?

IRTrans

[Ben]

Hi,

My external receiver has a red-brown mark on the back.

Ben

[IRTrans]

The Red/brown mark is OK - it is a standard 38kHz receiver.

To help you any further we would need to see if the device behaves differently when you are using the internal receiver.

IRTrans